St. John's Water Dog vs Francais Blanc et Noir - Breed Comparison

St. John's Water Dog vs Francais Blanc et Noir - Breed ComparisonSt. John's Water Dog is originated from Canada but Francais Blanc et Noir is originated from France. St. John's Water Dog may grow 19 cm / 7 inches shorter than Francais Blanc et Noir. St. John's Water Dog may weigh 9 kg / 20 pounds more than Francais Blanc et Noir. St. John's Water Dog may live 3 years less than Francais Blanc et Noir. Both St. John's Water Dog and Francais Blanc et Noir has same litter size. St. John's Water Dog requires Low maintenance. But Francais Blanc et Noir requires Moderate maintenance

History

st john s water dog - historyThe breed known as the St. John’s water dog is an extinct landrace breed. They were domestic dogs found in Newfoundland and at times were called the lesser Newfoundland. There is not much information available about the other breeds that went into its development. Hypothetically it is believed they are a mix of the Irish, Old English and Portuguese dogs bred to work.

It is also thought that other breeds in their family tree, descending from them, include the Golden Retriever, the Flat-Coated Retriever, the Chesapeake Bay Retriever, the Labrador and the Curly-Coated Retriever. The Newfoundland is also related to the St. Johns Water Dog through the line of Rafeirio do Alenteios that Portuguese fisherman brought to the island.

The breed was exported to England in the 19th century and early 20th. There the breeds of retrievers were developed. In Canada during this time frame restrictions were placed on dog ownership in order to encourage people to raise sheep. At the same time England imposed a long quarantine on all animals coming into the country in order to get rid of rabies. These two factors contributed greatly to the extinction of the breed. It seems the last two dogs were seen in a remote area in the 1980’s. All attempts to save the breed failed.

francais blanc et noir - historyTranslated from the French Chien Francais Blanc et Noir, is the French White and Black Hound. His ancestry goes back before the French Revolution to the old Hound of Saintonge and the Gascon Saintongeois. The Francais Blanc et Noir was bred to be a hunting dog and he is a scent hound. They were dogs that went hunting in packs, mostly for Roe and Red deer. In the late 19th Century, the Gascon Saintongeois was crossed with the Poitevin and the result was the Francais Blanc et Noir.

The breed was recognized in 1957 and by 2009 there were about 2000 dogs registered with the Federation Cynoloqique Interenationale. There are three types of the Francais line. They are the Chien Francais Tricolor and Chien Francais Blanc et Orange. The Blanc et Noir was bred as a hunting dog and they remain that especially in France. However, they are also very popular in dog shows. Because so many dogs belonged to hunters who felt no compulsion to register them, they were not recognized internationally for many decades later than they should have been.

Following the Second World War, breeding programs were in chaos and hunters were abandoning dogs that they could not feed. The military killed many dogs also. The Chien Francais Blanc et Noir saw its ranks greatly depleted but the breed survived. After being recognized in 1957 by the CKC and FCI, they gained international attention for the first time. Even though the breed is rare its numbers are greater than either of the other Chien Francais types. The breed registers 200 to 400 new dogs every year.

They are still endangered though because there are very few dogs left outside of France.

The UKC has recognized the breed but the AKC doesn’t.

Basic Information

Group:
Working dog
Hound dog
Origin:
Canada
France
Height Male:
48 - 53 cm
18 - 21 inches
65 - 72 cm
25 - 29 inches
Height Female:
47 - 52 cm
18 - 21 inches
62 - 68 cm
24 - 27 inches
Weight Male:
25 - 41 kg
55 - 91 pounds
27 - 32 kg
59 - 71 pounds
Weight Female:
16 - 35 kg
35 - 78 pounds
25 - 30 kg
55 - 67 pounds
Life Span:
10 - 12 Years
10 - 15 Years
Litter Size:
4 - 6
4 - 6
Size:
Large dog
Large dog
Other Names:
St. Johns Dog, Lesser Newfoundland, St. John’s Newfoundland
Black and White Hound, Chien Francais Blanc Et Noir
Colors Available:
black
Black and White ,
Coat:
short, thick coats
Short, dense, weather resistant
Shedding:
Seasonal
Constant
Temperament:
Intelligent, Loving, Responsive
Affectionate, Cheerful, Docile, Energetic, Gentle, Intelligent, Loving, Loyal, Playful
Grooming:
Low maintenance
Moderate maintenance
Trainability:
Moderate
Moderate
Hypoallergenic:
No
No
Kids Friendly:
Yes
Yes
New Owners Friendly:
Yes
Yes

Description

st john s water dog puppy - descriptionSt. John’s Water Dog is strong, medium sized and stocky. They looked more like English Labs than American Labs. They had a thick, short coat, loved swimming, had a lot of endurance and rudder tail. It was also described as a thin, black dog with short hair. They had white patches on their chest and feet. His nose was thin and tapered, his legs powerful, his chest muscular. The breed is quick, swims, runs quickly and is a fighter as well.

Never accepted by any major kennel club except as a foundation breed. They became extinct.

francais blanc et noir puppy - descriptionBeing a pack hunting dog, the Francais Blanc et Noir is muscular and lean. A long legged athletic breed with long drop ears, a domed head, and flews overhanging the lower lip. The coat is black and white, with black and blue ticking. There are tan dot on the cheeks and above the eyes and also below the tail. These spots of pale tan color can also appear on the dog’s legs. The Francais Blanc et Noir is known for its scenting ability and for its great voice. With its athletic build it is also known for its ability to persevere

Characteristics

Characteristics

1.Children friendliness - yes they are good with children.

2.Special talents swimming is their best talent

st john s water dog dog - characteristics3.Adaptability large need fence, they are not large dogs but they need outdoor space

4.Learning ability – very smart and eager to learn

Children friendliness

francais blanc et noir dog - characteristicsThey are good with children as long as the children are not overly rambunctious.

Special talents

Include scenting activities, rescue, tracking and hunting.

Adaptability

He is a large active dog that would not be adaptable to apartment or city life.

Learning ability

The breed is very smart and easily trainable.

Health Problems

st john s water dog puppies - health problemsThere is no documented history of any genetic or hereditary illnesses in the breed. However, it seems rational to believe they suffered from ailments similar to Labradors and newfoundland though they are smaller dogs.

No history like Labs and Newfoundlands .

  • Hip and elbow dysplasia – can cause lameness and arthritis.
  • PRA – progressive retinal atrophy – can cause blindness.
  • Cancer – in their later years.
  • Infectious diseases – not as serious as prior to vaccinations.
  • Myopathy hereditary – affects the muscles.
  • Ear infections.

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francais blanc et noir puppies - health problemsThe Francais Blanc et Noir has the propensity for several minor and a few major health problems. These include:

Bloat

Can lead to death if not treated immediately. Stomach twists and distends.

Joint Dysplasia

Can lead to arthritis and lameness if not treated.

Ear Infections

These can be avoided if ears are checked and cleaned after each hunt and after exercise.

Mange

The breed is susceptible to the non-fatal type. Check for mites regularly.

Allergies

Both seasonal and food potentially.

Caring The Pet

st john s water dog dogs - caring1Feeding the puppy – Don’t overfeed – they have a propensity toward obesity. Feed high quality, high protein 3 x a day.

2.Feeding the adult – Don’t overfeed. Feed a high quality, high protein 1-2 x a day.

3.Points for Good Health - stamina

4. Games and Exercises – They need space to run and they love to explore. They would also love to be near water where they could swim. Good at dock diving, field trials, flyball and frisbee.

Feeding the puppy

francais blanc et noir dogs - caringUntil a year to 18 months feed two to three times per day two to two and one half cups of high quality dry dog food.

Feeding the adult

After 18 months of age feed the adult at least twice a day about three to four and one half cups of high quality dry dog food.

Points for Good Health

The breed is very active with good vision and strong scenting ability

Games and Exercise

The Francais Blanc et Noir is a dog with a lot of energy and bred to be very active. He needs plenty of exercise and both mental and physical stimulation. If you jog take him with you or take him on long walks every day. He will need a large yard and he needs a job if he is not used for hunting. He is good at field trials, tracking exercises, a search and rescue dog and barn hunts.

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