St. John's Water Dog vs Hungarian Hound - Breed Comparison

St. John's Water Dog vs Hungarian Hound - Breed ComparisonSt. John's Water Dog is originated from Canada but Hungarian Hound is originated from Hungary. St. John's Water Dog may grow 12 cm / 4 inches shorter than Hungarian Hound. St. John's Water Dog may weigh 14 kg / 31 pounds more than Hungarian Hound. Both St. John's Water Dog and Hungarian Hound has same life span. Both St. John's Water Dog and Hungarian Hound has almost same litter size. Both St. John's Water Dog and Hungarian Hound requires Low maintenance.

History

st john s water dog - historyThe breed known as the St. John’s water dog is an extinct landrace breed. They were domestic dogs found in Newfoundland and at times were called the lesser Newfoundland. There is not much information available about the other breeds that went into its development. Hypothetically it is believed they are a mix of the Irish, Old English and Portuguese dogs bred to work.

It is also thought that other breeds in their family tree, descending from them, include the Golden Retriever, the Flat-Coated Retriever, the Chesapeake Bay Retriever, the Labrador and the Curly-Coated Retriever. The Newfoundland is also related to the St. Johns Water Dog through the line of Rafeirio do Alenteios that Portuguese fisherman brought to the island.

The breed was exported to England in the 19th century and early 20th. There the breeds of retrievers were developed. In Canada during this time frame restrictions were placed on dog ownership in order to encourage people to raise sheep. At the same time England imposed a long quarantine on all animals coming into the country in order to get rid of rabies. These two factors contributed greatly to the extinction of the breed. It seems the last two dogs were seen in a remote area in the 1980’s. All attempts to save the breed failed.

hungarian hound - historyThe Hungarian Hound, also known as the Transylvanian Hound, originated in ancient Hungary as a hunting dog. At the time there were Asian Hounds that traveled with Hungarian Magyar tribes into Transylvania. As early as the 9th century it is believed that these Hungarian dogs were crossed with Celtic Hounds and local dogs. The result is the Hungarian Hound. These dogs were incredibly popular throughout Transylvania.

This scent hound almost became extinct but was saved by intense breeding during the latter part of the 21st century. They developed two kinds, short and tall, for different types of hunting. The tall dogs hunted boar, bison, lynx and bear. The short dogs hunted hare, fox and chamois.

Only the tall dogs exist today. Some Hungarians raided parts of Europe and took the dogs with them. There was then a crossing breeding with Polish dogs. The tall dogs exist today in Hungary and Romania. The Hungarian Kennel Club recognized the breed and the United Kennel Club (UKC) from the United States recognizes them. No major clubs such as the AKC (American Kennel Club) or the British Clubs. The breed was accepted into the AKC Foundation Stock Service Program

Basic Information

Group:
Working dog
Hound dog
Origin:
Canada
Hungary
Height Male:
48 - 53 cm
18 - 21 inches
55 - 65 cm
21 - 26 inches
Height Female:
47 - 52 cm
18 - 21 inches
52 - 62 cm
20 - 25 inches
Weight Male:
25 - 41 kg
55 - 91 pounds
25 - 27 kg
55 - 60 pounds
Weight Female:
16 - 35 kg
35 - 78 pounds
21 - 24 kg
46 - 53 pounds
Life Span:
10 - 12 Years
10 - 12 Years
Litter Size:
4 - 6
6 - 8
Size:
Large dog
Medium dog
Other Names:
St. Johns Dog, Lesser Newfoundland, St. John’s Newfoundland
Transylvanian Hound Erdelyi Kopo, Copoi Ardelenesc, Ungarische Bracke, Transylvanian Bloodhound, or Transylvania Scenthound
Colors Available:
black
black with tan markings
Coat:
short, thick coats
dense, coarse double coat
Shedding:
Seasonal
Minimal
Temperament:
Intelligent, Loving, Responsive
Courageous, Friendly, Independent, Intelligent, Protective, Territorial
Grooming:
Low maintenance
Low maintenance
Trainability:
Moderate
Moderate
Hypoallergenic:
No
No
Kids Friendly:
Yes
Yes
New Owners Friendly:
Yes
Yes

Description

st john s water dog puppy - descriptionSt. John’s Water Dog is strong, medium sized and stocky. They looked more like English Labs than American Labs. They had a thick, short coat, loved swimming, had a lot of endurance and rudder tail. It was also described as a thin, black dog with short hair. They had white patches on their chest and feet. His nose was thin and tapered, his legs powerful, his chest muscular. The breed is quick, swims, runs quickly and is a fighter as well.

Never accepted by any major kennel club except as a foundation breed. They became extinct.

hungarian hound puppy - descriptionThe Hungarian Hound is a medium sized dog, a scent hound with the same characteristics of the type of hunting hounds found in Mid-Europe. The breed is a hardy one with a long head slightly domed skull. The muzzle is short, and the jaws are strong. The lips are black, and the ears are round and hang. Their eyes are shaped like almonds and dark brown. The breed has large paws with cushioned pads and strong toes.

Characteristics

Characteristics

1.Children friendliness - yes they are good with children.

2.Special talents swimming is their best talent

st john s water dog dog - characteristics3.Adaptability large need fence, they are not large dogs but they need outdoor space

4.Learning ability – very smart and eager to learn

Children friendliness

hungarian hound dog - characteristicsChildren friendliness – This breed is very friendly with children.

Special talents

Special talents - Hunting independently and at a distance from the hunter.

Adaptability

Adaptability – Not an apartment dog. They need space and land.

Learning ability

Learning ability – They are very independent and intelligent.

Health Problems

st john s water dog puppies - health problemsThere is no documented history of any genetic or hereditary illnesses in the breed. However, it seems rational to believe they suffered from ailments similar to Labradors and newfoundland though they are smaller dogs.

No history like Labs and Newfoundlands .

  • Hip and elbow dysplasia – can cause lameness and arthritis.
  • PRA – progressive retinal atrophy – can cause blindness.
  • Cancer – in their later years.
  • Infectious diseases – not as serious as prior to vaccinations.
  • Myopathy hereditary – affects the muscles.
  • Ear infections.

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hungarian hound puppies - health problemsEven though this is an ancient breed they do face certain medical issues such as:

  • Hip and elbow Dysplasia – can cause lameness or arthritis.
  • Cancer – can be fatal.
  • Entropian – The eyelid folds forward and can injure the eye.
  • Bloat – Distension and twisting of digestive organ can cause immediate death.
  • Hypothyroidism – medication can control this.
  • Ectropia – The eyelids fold outward and can injure the eye.
  • Sensitivity to anesthesia – must be careful if have surgery and for teeth cleaning.

Caring The Pet

st john s water dog dogs - caring1Feeding the puppy – Don’t overfeed – they have a propensity toward obesity. Feed high quality, high protein 3 x a day.

2.Feeding the adult – Don’t overfeed. Feed a high quality, high protein 1-2 x a day.

3.Points for Good Health - stamina

4. Games and Exercises – They need space to run and they love to explore. They would also love to be near water where they could swim. Good at dock diving, field trials, flyball and frisbee.

Feeding the puppy

hungarian hound dogs - caringFeeding the puppy – 1-3 cups of high quality food served in 3-5 meals per day.

Feeding the adult

Feeding the adult – 3-5 cups of high quality food served in 2-3 meals a day.

Points for Good Health

Points for Good Health – generally healthy

Games and Exercises

Games and Exercises – The Hungarian Hound is a hunting dog and therefore accustomed to and bred for a high level of exercise. Their instinct for hunting is really strong so make sure you do not let them off leash outside of a contained area. They excel at tracking, field trials, lure chasing, and fly ball.

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